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Forum : Human Rights
R344466
7 months ago
ShiftShapers

an apology for past attrocities without an appropriate change in current and future (atrocious) behavior is little more than a PR stunt. typical abusive behavior.

fuck you, Stephen Harper!

fuck you, Kevin Rudd!

Turtle Island is under occupation

you are not fooling anyone

R344468
7 months ago
ill_logik

exactly shift. how about giving the land back, or compensating those you stole lied cheated it from. same goes for slavery. the jews got major payday from german genocide, why not these peoples? you knwo what fuck it, let’s just burn this bitch down, the same system that killed and destroyed these peoples lives, land and culture is today doing the same to the entire world.

SORRY, no justice no peace.

R344472
7 months ago
deaner

as if…

this speech was given while native land in BC was being developed for the 2010 winter olympics. agreed, no justice, no peace. RIOT 2010!

R344479
7 months ago
Dilated_Rebel

Riot 2008!

R344486
7 months ago
bacchus

Canada gave Indians an entire province to themselves, it’s quite possibly the squishiest government currently in existence.

R344487
7 months ago
bacchus

All three countries have a history of mistreatment of the original peoples of their respective lands

delete “three” and that statement would be even more accurate.

Post Modified: 06/17/08 23:29:15
R344518
7 months ago
HughMunBeane

I’m very unimpressed with all these people and mafia/governments who seem to think they can use apologies and “say yer sorrys” as a license to continue bad behaviors. You are not obligated to accept an apology if you feel it’s insincere or made by an ignorant twat like Mike Harper.
Steve/Brian whatever.

R344520
7 months ago
Science

“how about giving the land back”

The 300 million white people in the US could all go move to Israel or something.

“compensating those you stole lied cheated it from”

I didn’t actually steal from anyone.

“delete “three” and that statement would be even more accurate”

true

R344522
7 months ago
xenonix

i forgive you all….now lets move on to making a better world

R344524
7 months ago
johnnycivil

apology long ago to some of our indigenous nations

One native view

Either way, sorry about that.

U.S. out of Turtle Island

European-Americans, will they be welcome in Turtle Island?

R344525
7 months ago
johnnycivil

Really, Canada is such a dirty evil country, I do not know how anyone lives there. Acting all innocent while always helping the empire.

R344535
7 months ago
HughMunBeane

“all innocent while always helping” the dirty evil empire to the south of them continue their conquistadorial dominations, I should think.

R344538
7 months ago
redoubt

I’d feel a lot better about this apology if Canada stopped acting unilaterally in matters of mining, forestry, educational funding, will and estate trusteeship, fisheries ‘management’, health costs and coverage, highway appropriation of reserve lands, water quality protection and distribution, aboriginal initiated justice system innovations, cultural artifact and grave reparations, industrial pollution, ‘crown land’ disposition, tourism symbolism appropriation, sports mascots, child and family welfare issues…

R344545
7 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

What a shame that Canada’s farcical “apology” (ie. Harper trying to create an image of himself as empathetic and “Canadian” to mitigate his well earned image as Darth Vader’s buttboy) about the abuses in government-funded, church-run residential schools (it wasn’t a blanket apology) is nothing more than PR…and pre-election PR at that. (Kind of goes well with his anti-Liberal video message/propaganda at the gas pumps where he tries to make himself not look like Big Oil’s well greased buttboy. Just like with Bush, the strategy is to use the PMs office as a never ending campaign platform – perpetual campaign and perpetual war go hand in hand.)

A little quote by an MP hand picked and propped up by Harper (though he’s now disowning him). Let’s give the floor to the REAL Conservative perspective on native peoples and native affairs….Ladies and gentlemen….Pierre Poilievre…

“That gets to the heart of the problem on these reserves where there is too much power concentrated in the hands of the leadership, and it makes you wonder where all of this money is going. We spend $10 billion dollars – $10 billion dollars – in annual spending this year alone … now, that is an exceptional amount of money, and that is on top of all the resource revenue that goes to reserves that sit on petroleum products or sit on uranium mines or other things where companies have to pay them royalties and that’s on top of all that money that they earn on their own reserves. That is an incredible amount of money. Now along with this apology comes another $4 billion in compensation for those who partook in the residential schools over those years. Now, you know, some of us are starting to ask, ‘Are we really getting value for all of this money, and is more money really going to solve the problem?’ My view is that we need to engender the values of hard work and independence and self reliance. That’s the solution in the long run – more money will not solve it.”

*incidentally, in 1998 PM Jean Chretian also offered an apology and Harper and his party have had nothing to do with arranging compensation or settlements (which started in 1998 with the Statement of Reconciliation and the $1.9 billion compensation package was mandated in 2005. Seems like Harper’s just trying to ride on the coattails of Kevin Rudd and mimic his success in Australia – though Harper’s essentially the anti-Rudd!

R344555
7 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

It should be pointed out that Poilievre’s comments were made the same day as Harper “apologized”. It seems kind of odd to hold a charade of this kind up and promote it as some kind of example to be copied when it’s so clearly propaganda and not genuine.

R344560
7 months ago
desultory01

Sorry bout that.

R344568
7 months ago
Truthcansuk

JC – Really, Canada is such a dirty evil country…

We are terrible, terrible people, it is true. It is how we are described the world over.

JC – I do not know how anyone lives there.

We wear a sweater when it is cold and take it off when it is warm. That’s about all it takes, really…

Acting all innocent while always helping the empire.

Just like the Mexicans…

R344570
7 months ago
HEMPforVICTORY

I suppose they could start with Alex White Plume and the Lakota

Alex sums things up nicely in the update video.

HEMP for Victory !!!

Post Modified: 06/18/08 20:21:02
R344608
7 months ago
johnnycivil

TCS, TCS
i been there, filthy, garbage strewn, smug little fifty first whore state
i like the dirty people just fine, almost as good as americans and better humor
except for TCS
it seems

R344609
7 months ago
Science

“except for TCS”

Humorless bastard he is.

R344610
7 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

Ahem….

Science, in Canada that would be “humourless bastard”....Canada, putting the you back into humour…

R344621
7 months ago
xenonix

there is no you in science

R344623
7 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

but there is an “I C”... What does it all mean? You’ll neverknwo what sekrits lurk within…

I did notice that there is an “E” in xenonix…along with a “no”...hmmm, xen is neverno!!!

R344632
7 months ago
Truthcansuk

JC – i been there, filthy, garbage strewn, smug little fifty first whore state i like the dirty people just fine, almost as good as americans and better humor except for TCS it seems…

I’m the worst Canadian ever…

R344633
7 months ago
redoubt

Not even close, Tcs:

Worst Canadian evarrrrrrrrrrr

R344634
7 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

One of his larger crimes against humanity is his celebutot spawn…

R344646
7 months ago
1nstinct

The 2 Laws:

Do all you have agreed to do

and

Do not encroach on other persons and their property.

these countries have broken these basic laws a trillion times over

R344734
7 months ago
Shoggoth

Are the Injuns going to apologize for the animals they brutally hunted into extinction? Maybe they can tear down their casinos and make life habitats for some endangered bison.

If we all had trusty mammoths to ride around on, we wouldn’t be in this gas crunch and we wouldn’t be in this war. Blame the injuns for the 1 million dead Iraqis.

R344739
7 months ago
Science

“Are the Injuns going to apologize for the animals they brutally hunted into extinction? “

Which ones are those exactly?

R345034
7 months ago
Shoggoth

The Giant Land Sloth, and Bigfoot.

R345042
7 months ago
HEMPforVICTORY

“Are the Injuns going to apologize for the animals they brutally hunted into extinction (The Giant Land Sloth, and Bigfoot)?”

cite plz?

Post Modified: 06/23/08 16:57:17
R345066
7 months ago
TonyFranks

Personally as a Native American and proud representative of that heritage, I think this is long over due. I feel that there even though they are not as often as in the past worst case scenarios of indian hatred. I personally have been victim of this by US police forces in my home of Missouri!

R345067
7 months ago
desultory01

“Maybe they can tear down their casinos and make life habitats for some endangered bison.”

as opposed to death habitats?

R345072
7 months ago
microdot

The only problem with “sorry” in the english language is it’s famous for meaning pretty much absolutely nothing. And indigenous peoples everywhere are so sweet the way that’s all they’re asking.

And the Europeans and the Euro Diaspora makes SUCH a big deal about it, like there’s no way in hell the Bush Administration would ever ever ever admit to being wrong about invading Iraq, because saying sorry, if there’s any chance that anyone would take it seriously, is the closest thing to death by a thousand cuts that they could possibly imagine.

You know, for instance, when France starts saying they’re sorry to the Algerians — they’re laying the groundwork for a major exploitative effort.

R345288
7 months ago
johnnycivil

native death squads

we are, of course, all natives of spaceship earth

imagine we can make paradise here and now

now

R345306
7 months ago
EGisJUICE

i forgive you all….now lets move on to making a better world

This post should not have been “no sold”

R347516
6 months ago
king43

“Canada says ‘We`re Sorry. Will We?”

Fat chance. Ours are always at best, quasi-, or worst, non- apology apologies. Even when we do it taken an Ice Age and it usually is half-hearted. Why?

We`re AMERICANS!!! We NEVER apologize.

Do you think Obama, or Clinton for that matter, will be in Baghdad, or Kabul, or Tehran ( come on ) apologizing for the 3,000,000 that got killed because they consistently agreed to fund an offensive invasion based on Congressional perjuy and contempt? To be fair, in private they may kick themselves, but out in public its a mandatory “...1k dead kids is worth it.”

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