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Headlines : Sci-TechJapanese invent car that runs on water
Could it be for real this time? It is being reported here by Reuters, along with other respected sources including India Times, and Edie.
The exceedingly skimpy English Website for the Japanese company, Genepax, boldly states that its WES (Water Energy System) “will save the earth from Global Warming.”
It also says upcoming demonstrations for the foreign press will be held in Tokyo soon. So if you are in Japan, you might want to email PR Manager Jun Onishi at press@genepax.co.jp.
It is perhaps worth noting that Japan is one very powerful country that has no vested interest in continued dominance of the global petro-oligarchy.
[Posted By Beagle17]Republished from Reuters
Tired of petrol prices rising daily at the pump? A Japanese company has invented an electric-powered, and environmentally friendly, car that it says runs solely on water.
Genepax unveiled the car in the western city of Osaka on Thursday, saying that a liter (2.1 pints) of any kind of water — rain, river or sea — was all you needed to get the engine going for about an hour at a speed of 80 km (50 miles).
“The car will continue to run as long as you have a bottle of water to top up from time to time,” Genepax CEO Kiyoshi Hirasawa told local broadcaster TV Tokyo.
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Posted by johnnycivil on Tuesday, July 1st 2008
/sigh
Laws of physics violated in the story: Law of Conservation of Energy, Second Law of Thermodynamics
Chance of this being some combination of hoax/gullible journalist: approaching infinity.
I’m willing to see laws broken from time to time. After all, a scientific law is simply a statement for which there are no known empirically-proven exceptions.
...and which predict, with 100% accuracy, future results based on known inputs.
Simply.
Speaking of which, there are those who claim that any car can run on water if you add a mason jar, a tube and some glue.
“After all, a scientific law is simply a statement for which there are no known empirically-proven exceptions.”
Actually, you’re thinking of a scientific theory.
To paraphrase Cookie Monster: My car runs on imagination.
Which is to say I prefer walking. Because after millions of years of evolution it is still the most efficient mode of transportation. ...At least that’s what I tell myself…
We are producing so much shyte, it’s time to get those little bacteria fart our engines up to speed.
“Because after millions of years of evolution it is still the most efficient mode of transportation.”
Unless you’re in a hurry.
Actually, you’re thinking of a scientific theory.
A theory can have holes in it. Laws have no known exceptions. It’s the theory of relativity, not the law of relativity. Laws describe observable phenomena, like the law of gravity. You can have theories about what causes gravity, but the law describes the working itself.
...and which predict, with 100% accuracy, future results based on known inputs.
You can’t say for certain that it will always turn up 100%. It just has thus far. Hence a law is not inviolate. Nothing in science is, that’s the beauty of it.
Science is always in a hurry.
I wish I had a goddamn car.
I’m trying to work out how it could be so.
We know from school with water electrolysis that the reaction, 2H2O + e = 2H2 + O2, requires an energy investment per unit of water (286kJ per mole theoretically, but in practice you have to put in about 715kj). So this is no good (you get less energy out than you put in).
Using a catalyst to aid the splitting water (so you get more energy out than you put in) looks like a possibility. but all I can find is some crap about the Rubippy molecule (it emulates plant photosynthesis, but is dead slow and unstable). So this is a non-runner.
The only thing it can be, I believe, is a mechanical water splitter. Stanley Meyer seems to at the top of the list of water splitters. In 1989 he produced a 1.6 liter Volkswagen dune buggy that ran on water
He replaced the spark plugs with “injectors” to spray a fine mist of water into the engine cylinders, which he said were subjected to an resonant frequency. The electronic resonator would split the water mist into hydrogen and oxygen gas, which would then be combusted back into water vapour in a conventional internal combustion engine to produce net energy.
Stanley Meyer’s mechanical water splitter looks like water electrolysis, but is in fact mechanically splitting the water (using the resonant frequency of water molecules to split the bonds). Meyer’s device consists of stainless steel plates arranged as a capacitor, with pure water acting as the dielectric. A rising staircase of direct current pulses is sent through the plates at roughly 42 kHz, which is given to play a role in the water molecules breaking apart with less directly applied energy than is required by standard electrolysis.
Stanley Meyer was killed by Exxon Mobile on 21 March 1998 (according to people who know what’s what).
Conclusion
I’m pretty sure the nips have further developed the Stanley Meyer water splitter (he called it a fuel cell to relate to dumb fucks – but it is not, as is described above).
I might have a go at making a Meyer’s resonating water splitter.
Full gen on Stanley Meyer stuff at WikiWoodles
TreeHugger did a story covering the Genepax Water Car a few days ago.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/06/genepax-water-powered-car-japan-debunking.php
“A theory can ha…”
Ah, word, should have read more carefully.
“Science is always in a hurry.”
Science also wishes his car wasn’t such a piece of shit.
A car that runs on water?
Great, $100 per barrel of H20 and war with any country with rain falling on it.
At least we can finally go back to ignoring all of those desert countries in the Middle East again…
Seattle may need to be made the capital of the US, and the rainforest will finally be good for something.
Ah Zephid, you cold blinded bitch slapped an unproven science is the dribbling pie hole phat boyeeee!
ouch
no takesy backsies
got that saved forever
the funny
a car can run on lots of stuff, all matter is full of energy
a thimble full of fully converted dirt would destroy the planet
and petrol is probably mineral to boot
wankahs
and go on the Japanese 9/11 diet!
To Chi and the rest of the gullible ones.
1. Read about the law of conservation of energy.
2. Understand it.
3. If still unconvinced go to 1.
4. Forget about perpetual motion machines and cars running on water with no inputs of energy.
Here’s the effects of the law of conservation of energy in simple terms.
You can’t win. You can break even but you can’t win. Mostly you don’t break even.
If we can get cars that also run on heroin and bad espresso, Seattle may well become capital of the world…
long time ago i had a car that ran on cocaine…boy, was it fast
I dated a girl much like your car once…
How do you know the molecular resonator is not drawing ambient energy to fracture the bonds?
The law of conservation of energy is just some shite made up by faggots that will do for now till a deeper truth displaces it.
What I can say with full confidence is that our system violates the law of conservation of energy
Even if a battery/alternator driven resonator was required … it’s energy expenditure would be marginal.
So this website still manages to draw people that would rather talk shit to each other, than maybe… unite? They say ignorance is bliss, but they seem to have overlooked self-righteous indignation. That’s just my opinion.
Go fuck yourself.